Good post. On the part about pagans being more culturally relative, I don’t think they would argue on that. They’d probably embrace it because they’re uber-tribal. I saw this one podcast episode on Odysee by a group of National Socialists called, “Prussian Socialism,” and they admitted that relativism is a “good thing.” I was amazed that they straight up said it. Honestly, the only folk pagan I like is Aodhan.
In the end the difficulty right-wing pagans have with Christianity is aesthetic - a matter of "taste". They simply cannot get passed the question "why wouldn't the "god of the universe" have chosen the Greeks as his chosen people and why wouldn't the Messiah have been more like Alcibiades?"
This neo-paganism seems to relate to the Enlightenment and literary thought, which ultimately conclude nothing more than a return to Gnostic heresy. However, instead of focusing on the transcendence of matter through knowledge—that is, the mastery of the world through the mind—neo-paganism, through its vitalism, pursues a materialistic quest for the mastery of the world of sensations, appearances, and the body. Its emphasis is on the exercise of force, phenotypic and genetic qualities, and ultimately, the vain mentality present in the delusion of becoming a great conqueror.
Ultimately, neo-paganism reveals itself as a reversal of Gnosticism, where the latter seeks a delusional and even narcissistic self-deification, while the former results in nothing more than the bestialization of humanity and a return to an animalistic, violent, and thus self-destructive mentality.
The Mormons are not explicitly white. Comparing a group which has faced no hardship in at least 50 years to a fledgling identitarian group that is less than 50 years old and has had to fight its way uphill against organized groups >100x their size is a terrible comparison.
The fact that they engage in charity *at all* despite the obstacles they've faced speaks volumes.
I'd be open to hearing what serious struggles pagans have had aside from the general political and institutional oppression that pretty much everyone to the right of Obama faces. As of now, I'd be surprised if there were any, but I could also be wrong.
And Mormons...facing _no_ hardship? Their group is notoriously parodied and satirized, to say nothing about whatever internal controversies they may've had over the years.
They've been on the SPLC and ADLs naughty list for years (despite being less hateful than the ADL), and that list is used by the government. A small percentage of them have lost their jobs because of their affiliations. I've heard some left because it caused issues getting a security clearance.
Neopagans in general are subject to political targeting in the west, mostly because of the ADL. Recently they went after a number of other pagan groups even though they weren't explicitly “folkish". The AFA just stands out the most because they are the most organized.
I mean, with universalism I guess they could just say “Yeah our gods and myths are true they’re just meant to only apply to us, like Yahweh of the Old Testament only apply to, and seemingly cared about, Jews.
I don't rightly share your preoccupation with objectivity, institutions and intellectualism. I did when I was a Catholic. Now I have no need for the universe to be explained to me.
I know why I was born. I am an animal. l grow. One day I will consume all that exists.
Great article, and a very crucial topic right now!
Was working on something similar actually.
I always go for the metaphysics when debating pagans. The Odin larpers have none. The neopagaans have better metaphysics but they still fail JTB.
This is the way.
Good post. On the part about pagans being more culturally relative, I don’t think they would argue on that. They’d probably embrace it because they’re uber-tribal. I saw this one podcast episode on Odysee by a group of National Socialists called, “Prussian Socialism,” and they admitted that relativism is a “good thing.” I was amazed that they straight up said it. Honestly, the only folk pagan I like is Aodhan.
And they are always the first ones to fake purity spiral and try to ruin organization reputations.
I think it's pointless to even engage with pagans, they are evil personified and should be burned at the stake in the town square.
In the end the difficulty right-wing pagans have with Christianity is aesthetic - a matter of "taste". They simply cannot get passed the question "why wouldn't the "god of the universe" have chosen the Greeks as his chosen people and why wouldn't the Messiah have been more like Alcibiades?"
Without understanding that the Israelites are time and time again described as White.
Excellent text!
This neo-paganism seems to relate to the Enlightenment and literary thought, which ultimately conclude nothing more than a return to Gnostic heresy. However, instead of focusing on the transcendence of matter through knowledge—that is, the mastery of the world through the mind—neo-paganism, through its vitalism, pursues a materialistic quest for the mastery of the world of sensations, appearances, and the body. Its emphasis is on the exercise of force, phenotypic and genetic qualities, and ultimately, the vain mentality present in the delusion of becoming a great conqueror.
Ultimately, neo-paganism reveals itself as a reversal of Gnosticism, where the latter seeks a delusional and even narcissistic self-deification, while the former results in nothing more than the bestialization of humanity and a return to an animalistic, violent, and thus self-destructive mentality.
The Mormons are not explicitly white. Comparing a group which has faced no hardship in at least 50 years to a fledgling identitarian group that is less than 50 years old and has had to fight its way uphill against organized groups >100x their size is a terrible comparison.
The fact that they engage in charity *at all* despite the obstacles they've faced speaks volumes.
I'd be open to hearing what serious struggles pagans have had aside from the general political and institutional oppression that pretty much everyone to the right of Obama faces. As of now, I'd be surprised if there were any, but I could also be wrong.
And Mormons...facing _no_ hardship? Their group is notoriously parodied and satirized, to say nothing about whatever internal controversies they may've had over the years.
They've been on the SPLC and ADLs naughty list for years (despite being less hateful than the ADL), and that list is used by the government. A small percentage of them have lost their jobs because of their affiliations. I've heard some left because it caused issues getting a security clearance.
Neopagans in general are subject to political targeting in the west, mostly because of the ADL. Recently they went after a number of other pagan groups even though they weren't explicitly “folkish". The AFA just stands out the most because they are the most organized.
rare tricky win
I mean, with universalism I guess they could just say “Yeah our gods and myths are true they’re just meant to only apply to us, like Yahweh of the Old Testament only apply to, and seemingly cared about, Jews.
Seems like that one is a pretty easy fix.
I don't rightly share your preoccupation with objectivity, institutions and intellectualism. I did when I was a Catholic. Now I have no need for the universe to be explained to me.
I know why I was born. I am an animal. l grow. One day I will consume all that exists.